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Current Arizona state senator Justine Wadsack spoke with me on a recorded call, trying to dissuade me from hosting former Pima GOP Chair Shelley Kais. This call followed her campaign of phone calls to many of my sources in Arizona to try to persuade me not to host Kais.
As soon as the show with Kais was announced, Wadsack began her campaign to try to get out ahead of the show. She went on a party forum and called Kais a cancer and suggested that I need to be educated on Pima County politics.
I made it known to my sources that I had a copy of this screenshot and the pressure intensified. I texted Wadsack to ask her why it was so important to her that I not host Kais and her response was a series of demands to tell her who sent me the above screenshot.
We spoke a few minutes later and the call is included in today’s podcast in its entirety.
In the call, she repeatedly called Kais the “queen of evil.” At the end of the call, when her anger intensified, she repeatedly called Kais the “f*cking queen of evil,” at one point even saying, “if Shelley Kais were to come up to me tomorrow I’d call her the f_cking queen of evil and stare at her right in the eye while I’m doing it.”
Patriot Party Affiliation
The bigger revelation of the call is Wadsack’s admission of working with Patriot Party, especially on an attempted overthrow of the Vail School Board in 2021. Wadsack said, “Steve Daniels and Michelle Dillard, they were with me when I stormed the Vail School District.”
Wadsack’s admission there is stunning, and it’s confirmed by video evidence. Here is a clip of a video taken after Wadsack and Daniels led a mob to force the school board members to leave. Daniels claims in this clip that the board members “quit” and Wadsack is seen in the video to be at Daniels’ side as he leads an illegitimate ad hoc meeting to “elect” a new school board.
This French Revolution-style takeover is exactly what is being advocated now by Joe Oltmann and David Clements, who are on respective nationwide tours promoting an organization they call the “Gideon 300,” recruiting and training local militia-style organizations across the country with the intent of overthrowing local elected officials.
Oltmann and Clements call for Christians, preferably local churches, to be willing to “die or go to jail:”
In the video below, Clements can be seen inciting irrational anger and hatred towards the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors:
Clements and Oltmann are closely affiliated with former Obama DIA Director Mike Flynn. Clements even tweeted that he takes orders from Flynn. Wadsack and many others within the Arizona Disruptor groups have also supported Flynn.
The objective of the Patriot Party was to openly take down the Republican Party and rebuild it in their own image. Justine Wadsack was the LD10 leader for the Patriot Party.
When I asked Wadsack on the call if she supported the Patriot Party, she denied it. But then she admitted to “storming” the Vail School District with Steve Daniels and the above Patriot Party screenshot proves that she was being untruthful.
Further, this tweet, written by Wadsack from 2021 and since deleted, clearly shows that she supported the Patriot Party and she likened the GOP to a construction project that might need to be torn down and rebuilt.
AZGOP spent about $120,000 in legal fees fighting the Patriot Party’s attempts to destroy the party, further weakening the party going into this very important 2024 election cycle.
Interview with Kais
Despite Wadsack’s attempts to stop me from interviewing Kais, I went ahead with it. During the interview, Kais provided a factual basis for the success of her administration, which was marked by record breaking fundraising, number of donors, an increase in Republican registered voters, and nearly doubling the number of precinct committeemen (PCs).
The interview was held live across all of my social media accounts, YouTube and Rumble and had hundreds of live comments and questions.
It might seem strange that the former county chair of a Republican party can cause so much controversy. She had not really spoken publicly in 18 months since she chose not to run for re-election in 2022.
But it appears that Wadsack and current Pima County Chair Dave Smith, who was also a Patriot Party signer, felt very threatened by any attempt to shed light on their efforts to radicalize and polarize the local party while driving out the talent.
This has been a comment thread in every state I have researched: the mantra the leaders instill in their followers is, “we need to get rid of the RINOs!” And the leaders declare that the most talented and effective leaders in the party, whom the insurgent leaders cannot control, are the first RINOs who need to go.
After Kais’ removal, Smith and his followers claimed that Kais left them with nothing in the bank. Bigger Truth has obtained financial records that show they received $30,000 in refunded prepaid legal and accounting services paid for under Kais, which they count as part of their grand total of $101,000 in income during Smith’s tenure.
“Off the Record?”
At the end of the call, Wadsack made much of her demand that the call be off the record, calling me a fraud for suggesting that I did not agree to keeping the call off the record. At the beginning of the call, she declared that the call was off the record but she did not ask me if I agreed to keep her off the record or give me the opportunity to respond to her.
Professionally, personally, and spiritually, my word is of utmost importance to me. I always protect my sources and when I am asked and agree to keep something off the record I do so.
But in this call, she did not ask for this mutual agreement, which is a personally - but not legally - binding mutual agreement.
I made the call from my home state of Michigan, which, like Arizona, is a one party consent state for recording. That means that if any one party in a conversation consents for it to be recorded, it is legal to do so - even if the other party voices that they do not consent.
This call was broken on KVOI, where I was able to share an overview of my research.
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